A250e after 4 month and 8000km, list of annoying things in the car
Hello all,
I dont speak German so I will write in English. Sorry for this inconvenience but I do hope that you will have use of what I write here about my A250e after 4 month and 8000km driving it.
So my post will be mostly based on bad things because if you watch any car review you will not hear this things ever and that is what really drive me mad here.
Let me start with saying that I am satisfied with a car and I would recommended it to my friend but I would never buy this car again, if that makes sense.
Also, just to give idea about my previous experience, this is mine 7 car and last two were Mercedes C class so I have good experience with Mercedes cars.
Here is the list of things that's annoys me most, feel free to comment do you have same impression or maybe you notice something else.
1. Front wheel drive just can not handle all the car torque. Even on dry surface it is truly struggling and you can expect lots of ESP/ASR intervention. If you turn it off, you will have wheel spin in first 4 gears. On even slightly wet surface, forget about any aggressive acceleration from a start. (Snow is coming, I see lots of issue even before it get frozen)
2. Car should be over 210ks, but because of issue 1, it doesnt not feel like that at all. I would say it feels like 150ks car. Only at high speed acceleration you notice it has potential.
3. Driving in electric mode, and you need instant accelerating (changing lane, overtaking some extremely slow vehicle) you do kick down and until petrol engine engage you are already done with maneuver and only then you hear engine started when it no longer needed.
4. When petrol engine (weakest/worst link/part in the car) start, during electric drive, it start with 3000RPM and make a lot of noise.
5. Petrol engine (weakest/worst link/part in the car) when need full power, make too much noise with no real effect. It is screaming like crazy but accelerate slow.
6. Petrol tank is ridiculously small. You can expect between 400 and 500km max range. So every travel above 1000km is kinda non stop fuel station visits.
7. Gearbox can be jerky when you drive with both engine on.
8. Burmester sound system just dont sound anything special. I had it in my previous C class and it was amazing, this one, is just OK, nothing else. Not sure is it worth extra money. Also when you turn it a bit louder, plastic in car start to squeeze with sound of bass (poor build quality?)
9. Rain sensor is just too slow. So when it is raining, I need manually to choose speed because sensor is to slow and so for dangerous to drive with it.
10. Battery realistically in summer can go between 45 and 50km, on cold days (still not under 0 Celsius) it is seriously degraded, 25km to 30km most. I am afraid when it goes bellow 0 outside, that it will be more like 20km.
11. Because of issue number 9, you can easily calculate how much it cost to drive and compare to other petrol/diesel engine. So in summer you need 7e for 100km. In winter it is like 10e for 100km. I use cheapest price of KW (0.28c)
12. There is no fix button to change station or song you listening. You can adopt cockpit and use pad on steering wheel but that is just non sense because you need to use one of 3 screen for something you just occasionally change and most of the time you want to change it fast.
13. Warning system in the car are way too sensitive. I turned off Early warning sound, still, it is beeping all the time as warning to objects which are far away (during U turn for example).
14. I got 2 times urgent car braking when going backwards because car "detected" something and just fully stop car like crazy. Nothing was behind car, false alarm
15. Adaptive cruise control can be dangerous, for example if car in front of you change lane, it happens few times that system didnt detect next car in lane and start to accelerate rapidly into new car in front. Like computer monitor just one car, and if that car change lane it stayed focus on it too long and ignore new car in front.
16. Slowing down in city drive with adaptive cruise control, can be something realy harsh for no reason. It just start braking too late and then it break too hard and unpleasant.
17. Mercedes portal for configuring new car is very bad. I was sure I choose all driving aid but when I get car, there was no Change line assistant, just Change line warning. Also part about charging cables are awful
18. Mercedes me charging card are ridiculously expensive, even 3 time more expensive then ADAC one. Yes, 300% more expensive and I dont know why, you dont get anything different of special with it.
I now it sound like lots of complaint but as I said again, I am satisfied with a car.
Feel free to comment and say you opinion, am I just crazy or looking for a needle in haystack.
Unfortunately no one from Mercedes will read this because I do think this could help them.
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Hello all,
I dont speak German so I will write in English. Sorry for this inconvenience but I do hope that you will have use of what I write here about my A250e after 4 month and 8000km driving it.
So my post will be mostly based on bad things because if you watch any car review you will not hear this things ever and that is what really drive me mad here.
Let me start with saying that I am satisfied with a car and I would recommended it to my friend but I would never buy this car again, if that makes sense.
Also, just to give idea about my previous experience, this is mine 7 car and last two were Mercedes C class so I have good experience with Mercedes cars.
Here is the list of things that's annoys me most, feel free to comment do you have same impression or maybe you notice something else.
1. Front wheel drive just can not handle all the car torque. Even on dry surface it is truly struggling and you can expect lots of ESP/ASR intervention. If you turn it off, you will have wheel spin in first 4 gears. On even slightly wet surface, forget about any aggressive acceleration from a start. (Snow is coming, I see lots of issue even before it get frozen)
2. Car should be over 210ks, but because of issue 1, it doesnt not feel like that at all. I would say it feels like 150ks car. Only at high speed acceleration you notice it has potential.
3. Driving in electric mode, and you need instant accelerating (changing lane, overtaking some extremely slow vehicle) you do kick down and until petrol engine engage you are already done with maneuver and only then you hear engine started when it no longer needed.
4. When petrol engine (weakest/worst link/part in the car) start, during electric drive, it start with 3000RPM and make a lot of noise.
5. Petrol engine (weakest/worst link/part in the car) when need full power, make too much noise with no real effect. It is screaming like crazy but accelerate slow.
6. Petrol tank is ridiculously small. You can expect between 400 and 500km max range. So every travel above 1000km is kinda non stop fuel station visits.
7. Gearbox can be jerky when you drive with both engine on.
8. Burmester sound system just dont sound anything special. I had it in my previous C class and it was amazing, this one, is just OK, nothing else. Not sure is it worth extra money. Also when you turn it a bit louder, plastic in car start to squeeze with sound of bass (poor build quality?)
9. Rain sensor is just too slow. So when it is raining, I need manually to choose speed because sensor is to slow and so for dangerous to drive with it.
10. Battery realistically in summer can go between 45 and 50km, on cold days (still not under 0 Celsius) it is seriously degraded, 25km to 30km most. I am afraid when it goes bellow 0 outside, that it will be more like 20km.
11. Because of issue number 9, you can easily calculate how much it cost to drive and compare to other petrol/diesel engine. So in summer you need 7e for 100km. In winter it is like 10e for 100km. I use cheapest price of KW (0.28c)
12. There is no fix button to change station or song you listening. You can adopt cockpit and use pad on steering wheel but that is just non sense because you need to use one of 3 screen for something you just occasionally change and most of the time you want to change it fast.
13. Warning system in the car are way too sensitive. I turned off Early warning sound, still, it is beeping all the time as warning to objects which are far away (during U turn for example).
14. I got 2 times urgent car braking when going backwards because car "detected" something and just fully stop car like crazy. Nothing was behind car, false alarm
15. Adaptive cruise control can be dangerous, for example if car in front of you change lane, it happens few times that system didnt detect next car in lane and start to accelerate rapidly into new car in front. Like computer monitor just one car, and if that car change lane it stayed focus on it too long and ignore new car in front.
16. Slowing down in city drive with adaptive cruise control, can be something realy harsh for no reason. It just start braking too late and then it break too hard and unpleasant.
17. Mercedes portal for configuring new car is very bad. I was sure I choose all driving aid but when I get car, there was no Change line assistant, just Change line warning. Also part about charging cables are awful
18. Mercedes me charging card are ridiculously expensive, even 3 time more expensive then ADAC one. Yes, 300% more expensive and I dont know why, you dont get anything different of special with it.
I now it sound like lots of complaint but as I said again, I am satisfied with a car.
Feel free to comment and say you opinion, am I just crazy or looking for a needle in haystack.
Unfortunately no one from Mercedes will read this because I do think this could help them.
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8.000 km und Du hast noch nicht die Fläche auf dem Touchpad entdeckt um den Sender/Songtitel zu wechseln ohne über ein Menü gehen zu müssen ? RTFM
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@Andimp3 schrieb am 11. November 2020 um 15:28:13 Uhr:
8.000 km und Du hast noch nicht die Fläche auf dem Touchpad entdeckt um den Sender/Songtitel zu wechseln ohne über ein Menü gehen zu müssen ? RTFM
Ich habe das alles nicht geschrieben, damit ich mit jemandem streiten kann. Dies ist meine persönliche Erfahrung als normaler Alltagsfahrer.
Kenne ich dieses Pad zum Wechseln der Station? Ja, ist es einfach zu bedienen? Nein ist es nicht. Das Pad ist zu empfindlich und Sie können leicht viele andere Dinge tun und möchten einfach nur den Song oder den Sender wechseln. Es ist auch schwierig, dies zu tun, ohne die Augen von einer Straße zu bewegen, die nicht sicher ist.
Ich sehe keinen Grund, was sie gespart haben, weil sie nicht zwei weitere Tasten am Lenkrad angebracht haben, wie ich es in der C-Klasse getan habe.
Wieder habe ich nicht vor, mit jemandem zu streiten. Außerdem möchte ich nicht alle Probleme einzeln analysieren.
Wenn Du keine Reaktionen auf Deinen Roman haben möchtest warum postest Du ihn dann ?
Ich habe das Pad bisher nur 2 Tage im Vorführwagen gehabt und kam auf Anhieb sehr gut damit klar.
Es gibt wohl kaum noch aktuelle Fahrzeuge mit Radiostationstasten. Im Gegenteil - andere Hresteller, wie VAG, sind da noch viel extremer mitder Touchpadbedienung.
Zum Glück habe ich keine so extremschlechte Reichweitenwerte im realen Fahrbetrieb. Jetzt im Winter unter 10°C noch über 40km. Das hängt halt auch von Fahrprofil und -Stil und den aktivierten Verbrauchern ab.
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Ich poste es, damit die Leute verstehen, was sie erwarten können. Niemand kann mir bei meinen Problemen helfen, das sind nur Probleme mit A250e.
Wenn Sie sich eine Auto-Rezension über dieses Auto ansehen (wie ich es getan habe und irgendwie betrogen wurde), werden Sie so etwas nie hören.
Meine Beiträge sind also nicht zum Streiten gedacht, ob ich Recht habe oder nicht. Dies ist meine subjektive Meinung als Alltagsfahrer. Mein Beitrag ist es, anderen zu helfen, Entscheidungen zu treffen und was sie erwarten können.
Autos werden für eine Zielgruppe gebaut und dabei werden lauter Kompromisse eingegangen. Mich stört z.B. der Sound des Motors überhaupt nicht. Hybrid selbst ist ein Kompromiss.
Ein Hybrid hat einfach 350 - 400 kg mehr Gewicht und ist 1,5 cm höher. Das macht sich bei der Beschleunigung, beim Verbrauch als auch in Kurven (der Wagen schiebt über die Vorderräder) bemerkbar. Mein A180 läuft z.B. sowas von geschmeidig um die Kurven, dass ich am liebsten nur Bergstrecken fahre.
Ein kleiner Tank ist doch sinnvoll. Es erinnert dich daran sparsamer zu fahren und damit die Umwelt zu schonen.
Das Burmester Soundsystem klingt auf dem Papier besser als es ist. Andererseits kann man für EUR 450 Aufpreis (zum Advanced System) auch nicht was super besonderes erwarten.
Ich fahre den normalen A250 Limousine und bin vom Motor sehr begeistert.
Das Burmester, ja das ist ganz ok.....aber wie @Synthie schon sagt, was soll man denn auch bei diesem geringen Aufpreis erwarten.
Der A200 Benzinmotor, ist für seine Unruhe bekannt, nichts anderes ist ja leider im A250e verbaut.
Trotzdem finde ich die neue A Klasse wirklich sehr schön und jeder der bei mir mal mitfährt finde den Wagen richtig toll.
My Feeling is that Topic 13 is something that unfortunately is in almost every mercedes as a standard. I had a c-class, the old a-class and a gla. In all of this cases i could turn down the sensivity of the assistant systems. Is it not possible anymore in the new a-class?
I think the review is great and has much information in detail. Many things we all know about the A-class are listed. This is the reason why everyone should test a car before buying it. There are also few things I do not like about my car, but I can live with that. 🙂
Anyways, your review will help other people a lot.
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@Halema schrieb am 11. November 2020 um 19:03:34 Uhr:
I think the review is great and has much information in detail. Many things we all know about the A-class are listed. This is the reason why everyone should test a car before buying it. There are also few things I do not like about my car, but I can live with that. 🙂Anyways, your review will help other people a lot.
Thank you, you get the whole point of my post. It was just a simple review of a car from my side and I am not an expert neither professional in that segment.
Regarding testing, well there was none A250e in whole Munich when I was signing contract (January) and I know that waiting time for new car was 6 to 9 months so I could not wait. But I fully agree with you. Anyway that is why I have chosen leasing for just 2 years because I know I am getting something that I didnt test.
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@thommyk28 schrieb am 11. November 2020 um 17:19:30 Uhr:
My Feeling is that Topic 13 is something that unfortunately is in almost every mercedes as a standard. I had a c-class, the old a-class and a gla. In all of this cases i could turn down the sensivity of the assistant systems. Is it not possible anymore in the new a-class?
There is just one option regarding sensitivity and that is sort of "Early warning all arround" which I disabled long time ago but still it is awfuly stressful when car is beeping and warning all the time.
But I can get use to that, the thing that I just CANT used to is automatic panic braking of car itself where there is no obstacle (or maybe my car can detect ghosts). That freaks me out all the time.
Maybe you should talk to your local dealer. My old W176 also had a lot of problems with the assistant systems. After calibrating the system was much better and it did not brake fully automated again in just normal situations.
Emergency braking sensitivity can be adjusted but i'm not sure if it only concerns the front radar system.
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@Andimp3 schrieb am 11. November 2020 um 15:38:24 Uhr:
Wenn Du keine Reaktionen auf Deinen Roman haben möchtest warum postest Du ihn dann ?Ich habe das Pad bisher nur 2 Tage im Vorführwagen gehabt und kam auf Anhieb sehr gut damit klar.
Er hat gesagt, dass er keinen Bock hat, sich mit schlechtgelaunten Nörglern wie dir rumzuschlagen und bi ja, dass er keine Reaktionen möchte.
Die Punkte sind alle nachvollziehbar und größtenteils korrekt. Ich hab die Karre auch und finde sie super trotz dieser Probleme.
Mit der Fahrassistenz komme ich aber gut klar, in der Stadt ist das Ganze natürlich noch nicht so flüssig wie auf der Autobahn.
Das harrsche Bremsen nervt und die träge Reaktion auf Kickdowns.