Klimaanlage = Climatic = halbautomatisch ?

[mb1019]

Hallo liebe Forenmitglieder,

bin gerade am suchen, ob der Golf VII die Temperatur bei der Standardklimaanlage regelt? Früher hieß das Climatic. Die Angaben im "Bilderbuchprospekt" und den technischen Daten sind da leider nicht ergiebig. Im "Bilderbuchprospekt" (Seite 50) steht jedenfalls: "Die eingestellte Temperatur wird automatisch reguliert."

Das würde ja dafür sprechen, dass es die alte Climatic ist. Aber warum nennt man die dann nicht mehr so?

Vielleicht weiß jemand mehr... Besten Dank für eure Antworten.

mb1019

[Druckluftschrauber42800]

Any chance to change your order? You can usually do this until your car is planned for a specific production date.

Unfortunately, information given by VW in brochures and online is often sloppy and wrong.

[Trennschleifer40535]

No.
The car is ready for pickup.

BTW. I just spoke with the dealer and he insists that it is semi-automatic AC, and it will keep the temperature inside.

Who has the right 🙁 ?

[Druckluftschrauber42800]

I am pretty sure that the dealer is wrong. I cannot tell from my own experience, as I have the Climatronic, but people here say that they have to readjust the temperature depending on the circumstances (e.g. sunshine).

[G6V2012-austria]

I can confirm no car of Golf 7 has a semi-automatic air conditioning in Austria.

But there is not a big change to 'climatic'.
To be honest keeping of temperature was only theoretically at climatic.
When you turn the button for regulation of temperature full left then the clima will go on automatically.
Also when you turn the button in direction for windscreen.
You have 6 Levels for the speed instead of 4 of old climatic resp. Golf 6.

Anyway if your dealer told you it is still a semi-automaic air conditioning it will have a big problem.
It should proof it to you.
I am rather sure it will not be a semi-automatic system.

VW explained that a lot of user are not able to use a semi-automatic system.
I don't believe it. I agree with you it is an impudence.

Anyway your dealer has to know this fact. The currently system has built for more than 3 years.

[Trennschleifer40535]

What a mess...

I just talked with the dealer one more time and he told me (after long consultation with the vw help-desk and techniques), that I can set the temperature dial between red and blue(approx 20-22 C)... and the temperature inside the car will (more or less) remain the same in the winter and also summer... (however it might be necessary to adjust strength and/or direction)

[G6V2012-austria]

😁😁😁
Funny dealer.
Of course when you set the temperature dial the air temperature will be more or less the same.😁
But the 'new' system has no any sensor for temperature controll.

So of course you have to turn the dial left in summer and right in winter.
The temperature inside of the car cannot be kept due to the temperature outside of the car.

I think it's time that your dealer should tell you the truth.

One more thing I don't see what type of VW Golf you ordered but if you have an additional heating for winter then you have to turn the dial at least 3/4 to the right better full the right.

[Trennschleifer40535]

He told me it has the sensor... on the outside of the car. He was silent when I was asking (2 times) about the sensor inside the car.

Well... I do not have, a car yet but I already regrets that I decided to buy VW.

PS. It is Golf Variant 7 - Comfortline, 122 HP. (no additional heating)

[G6V2012-austria]

As far as I know a 122 TSI version has an additional heating.
I don't know the exact word in English it is a small heating like a blow dryer.

But it doesn't care.

Yes, each Golf in Austria and Germany has an outside sensor.
But what should be the influence for inside.😮

Anyway, you should look forward to your car.
As I wrote there is not really a big difference between semi-automatic and manual air conditioning.
You'll get used to it.
I was also very annoying at beginning but now I think it is not so bad.

[Trennschleifer40535]

If the additional heating is standard equipment in Austria and Germany then I think it is the same way in Poland - we have a little bit colder climate.

PS.
I just received an email-answer from the VW help center - they claim it is semi-automatic.

And I have also talked with the person from the other dealership - She also told me it will hold the temperature inside the car (without touching the dial). The dial will stay between the red and blue for temperatures like 20-22 C...

VW MATRIX

[G6V2012-austria]

I don't think there is any automatic.
As far as I know there is no any sensor for keeping the temperature.

Please don't mix up blowing out temperature - of course the air which blows out can be the same temperature.
But what should it help if the temperature outside is 30 degrees or -20.
When you set the dial in the middle then the temperature inside will be to hot from about 20 degrees and to cold from upwards 10 degrees downwards.

Not a big issue but not a automatic-keeping temperature system.
All other informations would be a big surprise.

But I wouldn't accept the wrong information of your VW dealer or hotline.
Please keep us informed is there any automatic relating to keeping temperature inside.

[Trennschleifer40535]

G6V2012-austria - Do you have this Climatic system in your VW Golf Variant 6, or have you been using it in the Golf 7?
Maybe something has changed, and now it is semi-automatic back again? Is it possible that they all are lying?

[G6V2012-austria]

I have the 'new' system called only 'Klimaanlage (air conditioning)' in VW Golf Variant 6.
As I wrote I was very angry since Climatronic had been standard.
Sometimes I use a Golf 7 and as my feeling it works exactly in the same manner.
I cannot imagine that VW is built an other or better air conditioning for Poland.
All brochures in AT and DE called a manual air conditioning.

But of course I don't know if VW has done any changes.
I would never say that they all are lying.
Do you have not any possibility for testing.

[Trennschleifer40535]

OK thx for clarification, now I know it works in the same way in the G6 and 7. And I have to say I also do not think this is even possible that there is competently different system for Poland only.

Regarding testing... I have to travel more than 100 km to this dealer, so this is a problem...

BTW.
This is direct translation from the car specification:
"Air conditioning with the manual control "Climatic" ".

I even asked about this "climatic" and he(salesman) said it is semi/half-automatic... But I also checked on the official polish VW site and there was (and still is) such a description (I hearing similar explanation all the time):

"Climatic - semi-automatic air conditioning, which allows you to set a specific internal temperature - the driver manually adjusts only the direction and strength of the air flow. Selected temperature is maintained automatically. The system achieves optimal performance on the second stage blower. Advantage of semi-automatic air conditioning is the fact it maintain the selected temperature, allowing passengers to travel in comfort."

[Druckluftschrauber42800]

These descriptions are even worse than those on the German homepage.

This all is true for the first couple of model years of the Golf 6, but there is definitely no "Climatic" A/C in the Golf 7 any more (as well as in the last or later model years of Golf 6).

That is exactly the point with the VW brochures and online information: they do not pay enough attention when putting this information together, there is a lack of updates and quality control. Customers (and dealers) rely on such information and in the end customers do not get what was promised. Sad.

However, after a certain time of usage I think the manual A/C will work pretty well for you.

[Trennschleifer40535]

Could someone of you translate it into German language?
I will try to ask a German VW. I hope that they (in contrast to their Polish colleagues) know what they are selling.

"Hi

Does the standard air conditioning (not Climatronic) mounted in the Golf 7 Variant Comfortline/Trendline works as manual or half-automatic AC System? (Link to the image of the AC panel: http://www.volkswagen.nl/.../3.ashx?bc=White&%3Bas=1&%3Bw=477 )?
Does this air conditioning system allows you to set a specific internal temperature, and the driver manually adjusts only the direction and strength of the air flow? Does the selected interior temperature is maintained automatically - regardles of the outside temperature? Lets say there is -10 ° C or +35 ° C on the outside, and now if I set the temperature dial (first from left) in the middle (between the red and blue field) the system will keep in-car temperature in the range of about 20-22 ° C? Or maybe to keep the interior temperature at mentioned 20-22 ° C the dial will have to be twisted in the red side during cold weather , and in the blue side during hot days? In short - does it work as an old "Climatic", or now it is pure manual AC?

Regards, and thanks for a quick answer.
"