W205 Production defect

[Schattenparker136850]

Die C -Klasse hat einen ernsthaften Defekt, Gesundheitsprobleme des Fahrersitzes leidet Torsion , weil es keinen Raum befestigt wird verursacht. finden Sie in der Foto-Informationen und fragen Sie sich , warum die Mercedes -Website nie benutzt kannst du das Detail zu sehen. Wie ist es möglich Mercedes dieses Problem? Meine bereits 3 Sitze in 100000kms nahm

[Teutone33]

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@helderpsg schrieb am 27. November 2015 um 16:29:08 Uhr:

See examples of other cars with same problem!!!

We understand your problem but in my opinion i think its a little bit strange that only you have the problems. No one of the W205 owners write something similar about your problem.

I will check my car till sunday if i have anything like this.

Greetings Teutone

[snellepiet]

I Have measured my car and there is no problem, both sides have same distance. The car was build in Bremen.

[akswiff]

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@Teutone33 schrieb am 27. November 2015 um 16:36:25 Uhr:

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@helderpsg schrieb am 27. November 2015 um 16:29:08 Uhr:

See examples of other cars with same problem!!!

We understand your problem but in my opinion i think its a little bit strange that only you have the problems. No one of the W205 owners write something similar about your problem.
I will check my car till sunday if i have anything like this.

Greetings Teutone

I don't think that anybody has recognized this so far. You wouldn't see this without a detailed inspection of the seat. Even on the pictures I don't see the differences to be honest (except the one where the seat is demounted).

[Schattenparker136850]

Something new to clarify where the problem is. The armrest between the two seats is perfectly centered. there a problem under the armrest.

[Schattenparker136850]

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@snellepiet schrieb am 27. November 2015 um 16:51:00 Uhr:

I Have measured my car and there is no problem, both sides have same distance. The car was build in Bremen.

Could you take a photo of your car from the rear seat, focus on the central tunel and armrest??

Tanks,

Gaspar

[Spurverbreiterung44620]

here are the requested photos, my was also built in Bremen...

Bei mir ist es ok. Da ich fast 2 Meter bin ist der Fahrersitz sehr weit nach hinten geschoben. Für das Foto hätte ich ihn besser weiter vor gemacht...

http://up.picr.de/23836617gn.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23836618wv.jpg

Greetings

[Faltenbalg27]

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@helderpsg schrieb am 27. November 2015 um 16:29:08 Uhr:

See examples of other cars with same problem!!!

Das Bild zeigt doch deutlich, daas der Mitteltunnel 0,003 mm mehr links steht. Das würde ich nieeeeeeee akzeptieren.

[Schattenparker136850]

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@Heckflosse1963 schrieb am 29. November 2015 um 14:01:38 Uhr:

here are the requested photos, my was also built in Bremen...

Bei mir ist es ok. Da ich fast 2 Meter bin ist der Fahrersitz sehr weit nach hinten geschoben. Für das Foto hätte ich ihn besser weiter vor gemacht...

http://up.picr.de/23836617gn.jpg

http://up.picr.de/23836618wv.jpg

Greetings

The normal size is this one!!!!

[Der_Landgraf]

Ganz kurz mal als Hinweis in die Runde... der Mitteltunnel wird 100% (im Rahmen der heute gängigen Toleranzen) bei jedem Fahrzeug in den Rohbau gesetzt.

Einzig könnte ich mir hier vorstellen, dass es Probleme gab/gibt mit den gesetzten Gewindebohrungen/Löchern zur Sitzmontage...
Höre und sehe ich hier aber zum ersten Mal.

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little advice about that topic, the center tunnel of every BIW will be set 100% accurate according to todays measurement methods.
only thing that I maybe could imagine is, that the holes for the seat mountings are not perfectly drilled... but actually I do not know if this is done by a robot or if they were man made.
never seen or heard something before about that issue!

[Schattenparker136850]

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@Der_Landgraf schrieb am 29. November 2015 um 17:09:05 Uhr:

Ganz kurz mal als Hinweis in die Runde... der Mitteltunnel wird 100% (im Rahmen der heute gängigen Toleranzen) bei jedem Fahrzeug in den Rohbau gesetzt.

Einzig könnte ich mir hier vorstellen, dass es Probleme gab/gibt mit den gesetzten Gewindebohrungen/Löchern zur Sitzmontage...
Höre und sehe ich hier aber zum ersten Mal.

english version:
little advice about that topic, the center tunnel of every BIW will be set 100% accurate according to todays measurement methods.
only thing that I maybe could imagine is, that the holes for the seat mountings are not perfectly drilled... but actually I do not know if this is done by a robot or if they were man made.
never seen or heard something before about that issue!

Thank you Sir for your comment! It has made me feel glad that you have participated and posted on this comment.

Tomorrow I will perform a scan test by Steimbichler and I'm complete sure that the drillings are correct, but the central tunnel is turned left. See this picture please.

[Der_Landgraf]

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@helderpsg schrieb am 29. November 2015 um 17:31:19 Uhr:

Thank you Sir for your comment! It has made me feel glad that you have participated and posted on this comment.

Tomorrow I will perform a scan test by Steimbichler and I'm complete sure that the drillings are correct, but the central tunnel is turned left. See this picture please.

Hmm... but then you have to "clean" the whole car in the interior!?

How else would you be able to perform a proper body scan?

But I can help you a bit... see the attached photos from a BIP W205... you easily will notice, that the tunnel is moved to the left and that it cannot be fitted in a wrong way to the body floor panels.

The 205 series has the best BIW so far in the Daimler Group... it is also better than the one from the S-Class 222.

There will not be an issue like that the BIW was wrongly produced and fitted together.

Regards.

[Schattenparker136850]

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@Der_Landgraf schrieb am 29. November 2015 um 18:25:19 Uhr:

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@helderpsg schrieb am 29. November 2015 um 17:31:19 Uhr:

Thank you Sir for your comment! It has made me feel glad that you have participated and posted on this comment.

Tomorrow I will perform a scan test by Steimbichler and I'm complete sure that the drillings are correct, but the central tunnel is turned left. See this picture please.

Hmm... but then you have to "clean" the whole car in the interior!?
How else would you be able to perform a proper body scan?

But I can help you a bit... see the attached photos from a BIP W205... you easily will notice, that the tunnel is moved to the left and that it cannot be fitted in a wrong way to the body floor panels.

The 205 series has the best BIW so far in the Daimler Group... it is also better than the one from the S-Class 222.

There will not be an issue like that the BIW was wrongly produced and fitted together.

Regards.

Are you saying that there´s less space in driver side then passenger side, i don´t quite understand your point of view. Could you please be more specific?

I´me uploading a photo so if you want, you can use the marks to explain.

[Der_Landgraf]

The middle tunnel is moved more to the left than the right side of the body shell... in Z-axis. No defect or issue!
It is necessary according to the propeller shaft.

What you have marked are the drilled fixings on the brackets/cross members on the floor to mount the seats (as I told you in my first posting).

It is normal that there is less space on the drivers side seat to the tunnel compared to the same space of the passenger seat.

[Schattenparker136850]

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@Der_Landgraf schrieb am 29. November 2015 um 20:09:52 Uhr:

The middle tunnel is moved more to the left than the right side of the body shell... in Y-axis. No defect or issue!
It is necessary according to the propeller shaft.

What you have marked are the drilled fixings on the brackets/cross members on the floor to mount the seats (as I told you in my first posting).

It is normal that there is less space on the drivers side seat to the tunnel compared to the same space of the passenger seat.

Dear Sir, I recognize the importance of your opinion a lot, i apology for regreting your time but i´ve measured the drillings from fix points and they look to be in the correct place. I´ve putt a picture of the alignement of the drillings and i can´t understand where can i fix a seat rail with 4cm ( half to each side drill point) What conclusion do you support. Many tanks for your Knowledge supporting me.

[Der_Landgraf]

My fault, I meant Z-Axis...

I think we mix up the things... the tunnel is not 100% symmetrical in the body floor integrated, that is correct and normal.
There is no gap in production quality that would tolerate 1 millimeter differences between one BIW and another!

Where are you located? What is your dealer telling you? Did someone contact the factory and ask them for advice?