Probleme mit Leerlauf x14xe
Gude!
Habe heute meinen Corsa wiederbekommen, sind ne neue Kupplung und neue Spurstangenköpfe reingekommen. Jetzt hab ich folgendes Problem: Nach dem Starten dreht der Motor kurz hoch (was ja normal ist, ca auf 1500upm), dann sakt die drehzahl auf ca 500upm runter und schwanktleicht hin und her, Motorlauf ist in dem Moment sehr unruhig, teilweise glimmt die Batterieleuchte, der Motor is also ganz kurz vorm ausgehen. Das ganze dauert so zwischen 2 und 5 Sekunden, dann geht die MKL an und die Drehzahl stabilisiert sich so auf 1100upm, also leicht erhöht. Motorlauf is danach vollkommen normal.
Leider scheint man bei meinem keine Fehlercodes ausblinken zu können, bekomme immer nur 10x blinken und 5x blinken, dann lange pause, wieder 10x und 5x usw. . Hatte den Corsa bei nem Bekannten von meinem Vater, deshalb kann ich da jetzt net so drauf pochen das das gemacht werden muss, leider. Angeblich hat er nen Diagnosegerät dran gehabt, hat was von "Leerlaufregler im Ansaugtrakt" gesagt, kann das hinkommen? FOH will bei uns 15€ fürs auslesen haben 🙁.
Mögliche Ursachen und Abhilfen?
Gruß MrMmmkay
12 Antworten
Lies mal trotzdem den FC auf normalem Weg aus und notier dir, was da kommt. Hast dann evtl. nen 4 stelligen FC (die 10 wär dann ne 0), die Listen schwirren hier auch irgendwo rum.
Aber kann der Code mit ner Null Anfangen? es Blinkt immer 10x, kurze Pause, 5x, lange Pause und das wiederholt sich ewig. Auch die 12 für den "Startcode" kommt net einmal, alles sehr verdächtig ^^. Muss noch zum Spur einstellen, evtl ham die auch was zum Auslesen da, wär trotzdem gut falls schon jemand was zu den Symptomen sgaen könnte bis ich da war ^^.
Gruß MrMmmkay
Ja kann er, ich guck ma ob ich die FC Liste find.
Ich würd einfach mal die Batterie fürn paar Minuten abklemmen und dann nochmal starten.
Gut, das is einfach, das kann ich 😁, werd ich dann morgen in der Mittagspause mal machen, schon wieder Radiosender neu einstellen 😁.
Gruß MrMmmkay
Wenn wir den fate net hätten... *schleim* 😁
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P0782 2-3 Shift Malfunction
P0783 3-4 Shift Malfunction
P0784 4-5 Shift Malfunction
P0785 Shift/Timing Solenoid Malfunction/ 3-2 Shift Solenoid Circuit Electrical
P0786 Shift/Timing Solenoid Range/Performance
P0787 Shift/Timing Solenoid Low
P0788 Shift/Timing Solenoid High
P0789 Shift/Timing Solenoid Intermittent
P0790 Normal/Performance Switch Circuit Malfunction
P0801 Reverse Inhibit Control Circuit Malfunction
P0803 1-4 Upshift (Skip Shift) Solenoid Control Circuit Malfunction
P0804 1-4 Upshift (Skip Shift) Lamp Control Circuit Malfunction
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0505 gibts also UND es ist der Leerlaufsteller
Nun also gucken ob er nur "spinnt" (Batterie abklemmen), alle Kabel checken oder ggf. austauschen.
Du bist ein Schatz :P 😁, wieder was gelernt, die Liste is mir neu 😉.
Batterie ist abgeklemmt, klemm ich dann zum Mittag wieder an, dann weiß ich mehr. Wo sitzt eigentlich der Leerlaufsteller, hab was im Kopf das der in der Nähe der Drosselklappe sitzt??
Gruß MrMmmkay
So, Batterie ist wieder dran, ruckelt noch genauso, das wär zu leicht gewesen 😁. Wo sitzt der Regler denn jetzt genau, das ich mal nachgucken kann? Hoffentlich is beim Kupplungswechsel nur der Stecker abgegangen oder so 😉.
Gruß MrMmmkay
P.S. Fehler lese ich heute Abend nochmal genau aus, vielleicht hängt ja doch noch einer mit dran.
So, habs gerade nochmal das ganze Ausgeblinkt, wenn man weiß das es auch 4-Stellige Codes gibt geht das dann doch gut von der Hand ^^.
Ergebnis: 0505 und 0105 also "Idle Control System Malfunction" und "Manifold Absolute Pressure/Barometric Pressure Circuit Malfunction"
Kann mir da evtl jemand mehr zu sagen?.
Gruß MrMmmkay
Hi Mr Mkay...
Die Probleme klingen doch nach Leerlaufsteller. Hätte ichjetz auch geraten wenn es den Fehlercode nicht gäbe...
Insofern würd ich da mal ansetzen.
Der sitzt quasi im Drosselklappegehäuse. Vor der Drosselklappe, also ansaugseitig, ist so ein Beipasskanal. Wenn man reinsieht, sieht man halt ein Loch...
Bei der Mantzel PB ist das easy, da die Drosselklappe ja erreichbarer ist. Beim x14xe mit Ram oder Serie weiss ich das nicht mehr genau...
Jedenfalls lieg der Leerlaufregler an der Drosselklappe. Haben wir bei uns auch mal erneuert, den Preis weiss ich nicht mehr genau.
Man kann es auch mal mit Reinigen in Benzin oder Verdünnung oder ähnlichem versuchen... evtl ist der einfach verdreckt, oder aber die Elektronik dieses Bauteils spinnt, dann hilft Reinigen natürlich nichts.
So, neue Symptome: Sporadisch geht die Drehzahl an der Ampel hoch und runter, zwischen 1100 und 2200 upm, als ob jemand im Motorraum sitzt und mit dem Gas spielt ^^.
Ich hatte malähnliche Symptome als der Verbindungsschlauch zwischen Ansaugbrücke und Drosselklappe nen Riss hatte, danach werd ich morgen nochmal gucken, wenn der ok ist werd ich den Leerlaufsteller reinigen/wechseln, dann mal weitersehen.
Hat evtl noch jemand im Kopf ob man dazu die Ansaugbrück abmontieren muss?
Gruß MrMmmkay
Kontrollier ausserdem den Schlauch zum MAP Sensor (dein 2. FC), denke mal der ist irgendwo an die Spritzwand geklipst, geht ein Unterdruckschlauch und nen Stecker ran.
Die Welt kann auch mal einfach sein, hab den Fehler eben innerhalb 2 Minuten gefunden, gut wenn man mal bei Tageslicht guckt 😉. Ein Schlauch war nicht an die Ram angesteckt, siehe Anhang, das war der ganze Spuk, Corsa läuft wieder, danke für eure Hilfe!
Gruß MrMmmkay