Adaptive Cruise Control nachrüsten
Hallo,
ich hab den Tempomat eingebaut und könnt den " adaptive cruise control Sensor" günstig ranbekommen. Die Frage ist nur, in wie fern ich damit das System nachrüsten kann. Was fehlt noch. Wo würde ich preislich landen?
Ich habe kein Navi, also kein MMI.
... Danke
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Moin, dann habe ich es endlich geschafft ACC für meinen Audi A4 8k 2008 2.0 TDI CAGA mit JJG Getriebe nachzurüsten 🙂 War ein langer Kampf wegen anderer Getriebeübersetzung als der Audi A4 8k der ACC hat (ab 11.2008 glaube ich…). Unten gibt die Anleitung ohne Getriebeaustausch 🙂 Aber auf Englisch weil Deutsch nicht meine Muttersprache ist und vielleicht haben auch andere Interesse daran…
As mentioned above, I wanted to retrofit ACC. After doing everything according to instructions in this thread etc. and flashing the ECU with new software, the gear indicator in the instrument panel disappeared and ACC was disabled in 5th and 6th gear (where you would really need it). After a lot of research, I found out that the gear ratio was changed before the version with ACC was released. KXP is the number of the new manual gearbox with longer ratio I believe… In some Italian forums, they have managed to retrofit this, but only after changing the gear box. I have finally managed to do it with only changing the ECU software 🙂 It took A LOT of reverse engineering and trial and error editing the flash file.
My original configuration:
Audi A4 Avant 8k 2008 2.0 TDI CAGA 143PS and JJG manual gearbox – First time registered 01.06.2008.
ECU HW: 03L 906 022B SW: 03L906022B version 9970
(No responsibility taken if this does not work on your car, and if you really want to be 100% sure not to get IMMO problems or similar, you may consider to extract the ECU and backup the complete SW with internal flash and EEPROM in bootmode.) However I did it according to below without any issues… NB! Important to ensure stabile voltage during flashing! E.g. connected to power source or (not optimal) good status of battery….
Step by step guide:
After having done everything according to the standard ACC retrofit guides, do the following to adapt gear ratio.
1. Read out the Internal flash data of your ECU SW xxxB, 2048 kb. You can e.g. use Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. Bootmode was not required for me.
Flash the ECU to a SW which supports ACC. SW xxxB does not support it. I used MJ version, and flashed with VAG CAN Professional. Flash files can be downloaded via e.g. erWin in the frf format.
New SW: 03L 906 022MJ version 9335
2. Read out the Internal flash data of your ECU SW xxxMJ, 2048 kb. You can e.g. use Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. Bootmode was not required for me.
3. Using a hex editor (or even better tools such as WinOLS) update the area which contains the gear ratio for the instrument panel.
In my flash it was found at address:
a. 1A0ED2 to 1A0EE8 – Axis transmission ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed:
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2240 2560 2624 3264 3328 4224 4480 6144 7040 10240 11520 19200
Hex, 16 bit:
08C0 0A00 0A40 0CC0 0D00 1080 1180 1800 1B80 2800 2D00 4B00
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2061 2432 2534 2982 3136 3878 4147 5478 6016 8934 10227 16218
Hex, 16 bit:
080D 0980 09E6 0BA6 0C40 0F26 1033 1566 1780 22E6 27F3 3F5A
b. 1A0ED2 to 1A0EE8 – Axis transmission ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed,2:
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2176 2611 2662 3264 3328 4096 4224 6144 6272 10240 10880 19200
Hex, 16 bit:
0880 0A33 0A66 0CC0 0D00 1000 1080 1800 1880 2800 2A80 4B00
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2035 2458 2509 3021 3098 3942 4083 5606 5888 9267 9907 16922
Hex, 16 bit:
07F3 099A 09CD 0BCD 0C1A 0F66 0FF3 15E6 1700 2433 26B3 421A
If you have the same values in your B and MJ read flash files all should be good! I have identified this using various flash files read for SW such as B (not ACC suppport), MJ (ACC support), JM (ACC support), and changing MJ vs B differences gradually.
c. 1F9054 to 1F9078 – Min, max and change of gear ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed:
If you investigate DAMOS files it seems to be second area which also represent gear ratio, however it is not required to get the gear indicator working in the instrument panel.
“Parameter für maximales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 1 (1x1)”
„Parameter für minimales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 1 (1x1)“
„Parameter für Übersetzungsverhältnis vom 1. in den 2. Gang (1x1) „
„Parameter für maximales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 2 (1x1) „
„…“
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
1260 0 1260 2000 1260 2000 2800 2000 2800 3800 2800 3800 4700 3800 4700 32767 4700 1000 1000
Hex, 16 bit:
04EC 0000 04EC 07D0 04EC 07D0 0AF0 07D0 0AF0 0ED8 0AF0 0ED8 125C 0ED8 125C 7FFF 125C 03E8 03E8
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
1200 0 1200 2000 1200 2000 3000 2000 3000 3900 3000 3900 4900 3900 4900 30000 4900 1000 1000
Hex, 16 bit:
04B0 0000 04B0 07D0 04B0 07D0 0BB8 07D0 0BB8 0F3C 0BB8 0F3C 1324 0F3C 1324 7530 1324 03E8 03E8
d. Save/export the bin-file.
5. Flash the file to the ECU using e.g. Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. NB! The new checksum needs to be correctly updated using your editor (e.g. WinOls” or flashing software (e.g. Galletto).
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Den Hebel kann man problemlos umbauen habe ich auch so gemacht somit hat man die Möglichkeit sich einen gebrauchten Hebel zu besorgen für ACC und übernimmt den rechten Hebel einfach vom alten und fertig 😉
Moin, dann habe ich es endlich geschafft ACC für meinen Audi A4 8k 2008 2.0 TDI CAGA mit JJG Getriebe nachzurüsten 🙂 War ein langer Kampf wegen anderer Getriebeübersetzung als der Audi A4 8k der ACC hat (ab 11.2008 glaube ich…). Unten gibt die Anleitung ohne Getriebeaustausch 🙂 Aber auf Englisch weil Deutsch nicht meine Muttersprache ist und vielleicht haben auch andere Interesse daran…
As mentioned above, I wanted to retrofit ACC. After doing everything according to instructions in this thread etc. and flashing the ECU with new software, the gear indicator in the instrument panel disappeared and ACC was disabled in 5th and 6th gear (where you would really need it). After a lot of research, I found out that the gear ratio was changed before the version with ACC was released. KXP is the number of the new manual gearbox with longer ratio I believe… In some Italian forums, they have managed to retrofit this, but only after changing the gear box. I have finally managed to do it with only changing the ECU software 🙂 It took A LOT of reverse engineering and trial and error editing the flash file.
My original configuration:
Audi A4 Avant 8k 2008 2.0 TDI CAGA 143PS and JJG manual gearbox – First time registered 01.06.2008.
ECU HW: 03L 906 022B SW: 03L906022B version 9970
(No responsibility taken if this does not work on your car, and if you really want to be 100% sure not to get IMMO problems or similar, you may consider to extract the ECU and backup the complete SW with internal flash and EEPROM in bootmode.) However I did it according to below without any issues… NB! Important to ensure stabile voltage during flashing! E.g. connected to power source or (not optimal) good status of battery….
Step by step guide:
After having done everything according to the standard ACC retrofit guides, do the following to adapt gear ratio.
1. Read out the Internal flash data of your ECU SW xxxB, 2048 kb. You can e.g. use Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. Bootmode was not required for me.
Flash the ECU to a SW which supports ACC. SW xxxB does not support it. I used MJ version, and flashed with VAG CAN Professional. Flash files can be downloaded via e.g. erWin in the frf format.
New SW: 03L 906 022MJ version 9335
2. Read out the Internal flash data of your ECU SW xxxMJ, 2048 kb. You can e.g. use Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. Bootmode was not required for me.
3. Using a hex editor (or even better tools such as WinOLS) update the area which contains the gear ratio for the instrument panel.
In my flash it was found at address:
a. 1A0ED2 to 1A0EE8 – Axis transmission ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed:
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2240 2560 2624 3264 3328 4224 4480 6144 7040 10240 11520 19200
Hex, 16 bit:
08C0 0A00 0A40 0CC0 0D00 1080 1180 1800 1B80 2800 2D00 4B00
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2061 2432 2534 2982 3136 3878 4147 5478 6016 8934 10227 16218
Hex, 16 bit:
080D 0980 09E6 0BA6 0C40 0F26 1033 1566 1780 22E6 27F3 3F5A
b. 1A0ED2 to 1A0EE8 – Axis transmission ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed,2:
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2176 2611 2662 3264 3328 4096 4224 6144 6272 10240 10880 19200
Hex, 16 bit:
0880 0A33 0A66 0CC0 0D00 1000 1080 1800 1880 2800 2A80 4B00
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2035 2458 2509 3021 3098 3942 4083 5606 5888 9267 9907 16922
Hex, 16 bit:
07F3 099A 09CD 0BCD 0C1A 0F66 0FF3 15E6 1700 2433 26B3 421A
If you have the same values in your B and MJ read flash files all should be good! I have identified this using various flash files read for SW such as B (not ACC suppport), MJ (ACC support), JM (ACC support), and changing MJ vs B differences gradually.
c. 1F9054 to 1F9078 – Min, max and change of gear ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed:
If you investigate DAMOS files it seems to be second area which also represent gear ratio, however it is not required to get the gear indicator working in the instrument panel.
“Parameter für maximales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 1 (1x1)”
„Parameter für minimales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 1 (1x1)“
„Parameter für Übersetzungsverhältnis vom 1. in den 2. Gang (1x1) „
„Parameter für maximales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 2 (1x1) „
„…“
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
1260 0 1260 2000 1260 2000 2800 2000 2800 3800 2800 3800 4700 3800 4700 32767 4700 1000 1000
Hex, 16 bit:
04EC 0000 04EC 07D0 04EC 07D0 0AF0 07D0 0AF0 0ED8 0AF0 0ED8 125C 0ED8 125C 7FFF 125C 03E8 03E8
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
1200 0 1200 2000 1200 2000 3000 2000 3000 3900 3000 3900 4900 3900 4900 30000 4900 1000 1000
Hex, 16 bit:
04B0 0000 04B0 07D0 04B0 07D0 0BB8 07D0 0BB8 0F3C 0BB8 0F3C 1324 0F3C 1324 7530 1324 03E8 03E8
d. Save/export the bin-file.
5. Flash the file to the ECU using e.g. Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. NB! The new checksum needs to be correctly updated using your editor (e.g. WinOls” or flashing software (e.g. Galletto).
So, bei mir soll die Nachrüstung nun auch endlich beginnen. Kann ich denn in meinem FL auch den Sensor vom VFL verbauen?
nein
ich hab aber noch für das Facelift ein komplett Set da
ACC inkl. Halter
Lenkstockhebel
und Tacho A4 wahlweise auch A5 (beide Facelift)
km-stand kann ich auf wunsch auch direkt anpassen (gegen nachweis)
Kabelsatz wäre auch noch dazu lieferbar
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Would this be the answer for the A5CO 2008 1.8tfsi CABD as well?
Last week we updated the ECU to the latest software (SVM) but it didnt matter
Then we tried an A4 2011 motor ECU on my A5 and it was POSSIBLE to code ACC !
But then the immo gave a problem as the ECU came from the newer 160PK model and my car has 170PK.
It gave an error as the "poweroutput" didnt match (can't remember the exact error code).
The guy said it would be possible if you would get past the immo, but he thought you would get SAFE on the display anyhow. Then we had to quitte.
My car has a JJF gearbox, I dont know if its very different compared wih JJG.
Engine ECU info:
Engine (------CABD) Labels: 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 907 115 A HW: 8K1 907 115
Component: 1.8l R4/4V TF H07 0003
Revision: A5H07---
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@Bierbrunnen schrieb am 22. Februar 2016 um 20:47:48 Uhr:
was für ein Thread...kurze Frage: TN für Luftführungsgitter A5 FL Bj 2012? Danke schon mal
http://www.partsbase.org/.../
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@Baas_J. schrieb am 22. Februar 2016 um 21:52:48 Uhr:
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@Bierbrunnen schrieb am 22. Februar 2016 um 20:47:48 Uhr:
was für ein Thread...kurze Frage: TN für Luftführungsgitter A5 FL Bj 2012? Danke schon malhttp://www.partsbase.org/.../
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Hi,
I guess you have the same issue as I had. However you need to first do some research and find out which SW works with ACC and which does not for your car. The easiest was is to download firmware via ERWIN (buy day pass), and flash with e.g. VAG CAN Pro. SVM only changes the version of your current SW.
You would need to read out original flash, then update to ACC supported SW. Both should be read out. And you need to do some searching in the flash file to check if the A5 gears are the same as A4.
For A4 CAGA this is a brief overview of which SW works/does not work with ACC.
HW for all below: 03L 906 022 B
SW without ACC support:
03L 906 022 B
SW with ACC support:
03L 906 022 MJ
03L 906 022 JM
03L 906 022 MQ/MR (CAHA)
...
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@Baas_J. schrieb am 22. Februar 2016 um 21:41:46 Uhr:
Would this be the answer for the A5CO 2008 1.8tfsi CABD as well?Last week we updated the ECU to the latest software (SVM) but it didnt matter
Then we tried an A4 2011 motor ECU on my A5 and it was POSSIBLE to code ACC !
But then the immo gave a problem as the ECU came from the newer 160PK model and my car has 170PK.
It gave an error as the "poweroutput" didnt match (can't remember the exact error code).
The guy said it would be possible if you would get past the immo, but he thought you would get SAFE on the display anyhow. Then we had to quitte.My car has a JJF gearbox, I dont know if its very different compared wih JJG.
Engine ECU info:
Engine (------CABD) Labels: 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 907 115 A HW: 8K1 907 115
Component: 1.8l R4/4V TF H07 0003
Revision: A5H07---
...regarding IMMO, I also tried to flash my 143PS with the 170PS (MR) since I were considering to retrofit turbocharger, however I got the IMMO as well as some error messages. After disabling it in the flash, ACC worked again, but SAFE showed in instrument panel. Therefore flashed back to MJ.
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@jarle_sb schrieb am 23. Februar 2016 um 09:54:21 Uhr:
Hi,I guess you have the same issue as I had. However you need to first do some research and find out which SW works with ACC and which does not for your car. The easiest was is to download firmware via ERWIN (buy day pass), and flash with e.g. VAG CAN Pro. SVM only changes the version of your current SW.
You would need to read out original flash, then update to ACC supported SW. Both should be read out. And you need to do some searching in the flash file to check if the A5 gears are the same as A4.
For A4 CAGA this is a brief overview of which SW works/does not work with ACC.
HW for all below: 03L 906 022 B
SW without ACC support:
03L 906 022 BSW with ACC support:
03L 906 022 MJ
03L 906 022 JM
03L 906 022 MQ/MR (CAHA)
...
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@jarle_sb schrieb am 23. Februar 2016 um 09:54:21 Uhr:
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@Baas_J. schrieb am 22. Februar 2016 um 21:41:46 Uhr:
Would this be the answer for the A5CO 2008 1.8tfsi CABD as well?Last week we updated the ECU to the latest software (SVM) but it didnt matter
Then we tried an A4 2011 motor ECU on my A5 and it was POSSIBLE to code ACC !
But then the immo gave a problem as the ECU came from the newer 160PK model and my car has 170PK.
It gave an error as the "poweroutput" didnt match (can't remember the exact error code).
The guy said it would be possible if you would get past the immo, but he thought you would get SAFE on the display anyhow. Then we had to quitte.My car has a JJF gearbox, I dont know if its very different compared wih JJG.
Engine ECU info:
Engine (------CABD) Labels: 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
Part No SW: 8T0 907 115 A HW: 8K1 907 115
Component: 1.8l R4/4V TF H07 0003
Revision: A5H07---
Nun konnte ich mir mit Hilfe dieses Threads alle Teilenummern raussuchen. Nur bei dem Gateway bin ich mir nicht sicher. Bei dem FL muss es ein 8R0 907 468 D, J, P oder AA sein korrekt?
Jarle_SB
Yes, thats exactly the problem we encountered.
I think the problem is that theres no SW for my ecu (8T0907115A) available that supports ACC.
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@Zerookee schrieb am 23. Februar 2016 um 12:50:55 Uhr:
Nun konnte ich mir mit Hilfe dieses Threads alle Teilenummern raussuchen. Nur bei dem Gateway bin ich mir nicht sicher. Bei dem FL muss es ein 8R0 907 468 D, J, P oder AA sein korrekt?
http://www.partsbase.org/.../#p-aud-8r0907468d
Look here, every GW that has PR: 8T4 is ok
I see there are differences between JJF and JJG gearbox on A4/A5;
http://workshop-manuals.com/.../audi_a4_2008_?...
So copying yours won't be an option 😉
Hallo, passt nicht ganz hier rein aber vlt kann mir einer helfen. Suche ein codierer im Raum Dresden pirna oder Leipzig. Falls jmd da ist und Zeit hat schreibt mir dich bitte ne pn. LG