DRIVe oder D2??

Hallo,
nun überlege ich, meinen 6 Jahre alten 2,4i V50 gegen einen Neuwagen (natürlich V50) zu tauschen. Nur: DRIVe oder D2? Der eine Händler sagt, DRIVe ist besser, der andere D2. Start/Stop-Automatik gegen 6-Gänge und was wird aus DRIVe im nächsten Jahr? Machen die 6 PS einen Unterschied? Lohnt es sich zu warten? Würde mich über Meinungen und Motorerfahrungen freuen. Und vor allem: Verbrauchserfahrungen!! Hält der DRIVe die kombinierten 3,9 Liter ein?

The other good thing in D2(115KM) compared to Drive(109KM) is that the DPF installed in it is maintenance-free (doesn't require diesel additive).

Wie Chris schon schrieb, ist es bei mir nach dem Update deutlich besser geworden. Ich habe zeitweise auch um die 8 bis 9l verbraucht, was mir definitiv zu viel war. Vom bekam ich auch nur zu hören, dass der Motor noch zu neu sei und ich ihn erst einfahren sollte. Da bei mir aber auch ein Ruckeln, ein selbstständiges Ausschalten und Fehlermeldungen dazu kamen, hab ich da nicht locker gelassen. Drei Stunden nachdem ich das Fahrzeug abgegeben habe, konnte ich ihn schon wieder abholen. Der sagte mir etwas davon, dass einige D2 mit einer Sotware ausgeliefert wurden, die zu viel Diesel einspritzt. Daher auch der hohe Verbrauch und die anderen Probleme. Bei mir ist der Motor regelrecht abgesoffen, weshalb er anfing zu stottern und auch ausging.
Versuch es nochmal bei deinem mit dem gezielten Hinweis auf das Update.

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The other good thing in D2(115KM) compared to Drive(109KM) is that the DPF installed in it is maintenance-free (doesn't require diesel additive).

That's only partly true. The new particle filter doens't need the additive, but the filter itself has to be changed. As a result of every active regeneration there is ash that stays in the filter and could not be reduced be later regenerations.

The correct designation should be ''maintenance-free until exchange''.

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Original geschrieben von ukukuk

The other good thing in D2(115KM) compared to Drive(109KM) is that the DPF installed in it is maintenance-free (doesn't require diesel additive).

That's only partly true. The new particle filter doens't need the additive, but the filter itself has to be changed.
The correct designation should be ''maintenance-free until exchange''.

Even with the Eolys additive, the particle filter still needs to be changed every 120.000 km.

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Original geschrieben von ukukuk

The other good thing in D2(115KM) compared to Drive(109KM) is that the DPF installed in it is maintenance-free (doesn't require diesel additive).

That's only partly true. The new particle filter doens't need the additive, but the filter itself has to be changed. As a result of every active regeneration there is ash that stays in the filter and could not be reduced be later regenerations.
The correct designation should be ''maintenance-free until exchange''.

Do you know how many km you can drive up to the filter change? 120'000 km, just like in the case of the old type filter, or maybe more?
I asking because I was told by the Volvo Service Center that this new DPF is maintenance free and the filter itself doesn't needs to be replaced...

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Original geschrieben von ukukuk

Do you know how many km you can drive up to the filter change? 120'000 km, just like in the case of the old type filter, or maybe more?
I asking because I was told by the Volvo Service Center that this new DPF is maintenance free and the filter itself doesn't needs to be replaced...

There is no definitive date for the exchange. It's just a simple trick to fool the customer. Without the additive they could rename the particle filter as maintenance-free and kick it out of the maintenance table.

But remember: tires and brakes are although maintenance-free and are not listed in the maintenance table but nevertheless must be changed. It's the same with the so called maintenance-free particle filter.

The actual exchange depends on your driving profile. If there are many active regenerations the exchange is relatively early. It might be at 90, 120 or 150 kkm. You just don't know.

Volvo changes in annual steps. As most 4 cylinder engines are expected to run 20.000 km/year so the change time is either 6 years (latest) or earlier. Most dealerships/garages won't negotiate about this, as they mainly work via checklists - and these lists are rather "solid" so they won't say "Okay, this time we won't touch it".
I'm not sure about the new D2, as I haven't really had time/muse to read about it, but if it is like the DRIVe (1.6d - 109 hp), then it will be the same particle filter etc. (60k km additive, 120k km filter and additive)...