Adaptive Cruise Control nachrüsten
Hallo,
ich hab den Tempomat eingebaut und könnt den " adaptive cruise control Sensor" günstig ranbekommen. Die Frage ist nur, in wie fern ich damit das System nachrüsten kann. Was fehlt noch. Wo würde ich preislich landen?
Ich habe kein Navi, also kein MMI.
... Danke
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Moin, dann habe ich es endlich geschafft ACC für meinen Audi A4 8k 2008 2.0 TDI CAGA mit JJG Getriebe nachzurüsten 🙂 War ein langer Kampf wegen anderer Getriebeübersetzung als der Audi A4 8k der ACC hat (ab 11.2008 glaube ich…). Unten gibt die Anleitung ohne Getriebeaustausch 🙂 Aber auf Englisch weil Deutsch nicht meine Muttersprache ist und vielleicht haben auch andere Interesse daran…
As mentioned above, I wanted to retrofit ACC. After doing everything according to instructions in this thread etc. and flashing the ECU with new software, the gear indicator in the instrument panel disappeared and ACC was disabled in 5th and 6th gear (where you would really need it). After a lot of research, I found out that the gear ratio was changed before the version with ACC was released. KXP is the number of the new manual gearbox with longer ratio I believe… In some Italian forums, they have managed to retrofit this, but only after changing the gear box. I have finally managed to do it with only changing the ECU software 🙂 It took A LOT of reverse engineering and trial and error editing the flash file.
My original configuration:
Audi A4 Avant 8k 2008 2.0 TDI CAGA 143PS and JJG manual gearbox – First time registered 01.06.2008.
ECU HW: 03L 906 022B SW: 03L906022B version 9970
(No responsibility taken if this does not work on your car, and if you really want to be 100% sure not to get IMMO problems or similar, you may consider to extract the ECU and backup the complete SW with internal flash and EEPROM in bootmode.) However I did it according to below without any issues… NB! Important to ensure stabile voltage during flashing! E.g. connected to power source or (not optimal) good status of battery….
Step by step guide:
After having done everything according to the standard ACC retrofit guides, do the following to adapt gear ratio.
1. Read out the Internal flash data of your ECU SW xxxB, 2048 kb. You can e.g. use Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. Bootmode was not required for me.
Flash the ECU to a SW which supports ACC. SW xxxB does not support it. I used MJ version, and flashed with VAG CAN Professional. Flash files can be downloaded via e.g. erWin in the frf format.
New SW: 03L 906 022MJ version 9335
2. Read out the Internal flash data of your ECU SW xxxMJ, 2048 kb. You can e.g. use Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. Bootmode was not required for me.
3. Using a hex editor (or even better tools such as WinOLS) update the area which contains the gear ratio for the instrument panel.
In my flash it was found at address:
a. 1A0ED2 to 1A0EE8 – Axis transmission ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed:
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2240 2560 2624 3264 3328 4224 4480 6144 7040 10240 11520 19200
Hex, 16 bit:
08C0 0A00 0A40 0CC0 0D00 1080 1180 1800 1B80 2800 2D00 4B00
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2061 2432 2534 2982 3136 3878 4147 5478 6016 8934 10227 16218
Hex, 16 bit:
080D 0980 09E6 0BA6 0C40 0F26 1033 1566 1780 22E6 27F3 3F5A
b. 1A0ED2 to 1A0EE8 – Axis transmission ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed,2:
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2176 2611 2662 3264 3328 4096 4224 6144 6272 10240 10880 19200
Hex, 16 bit:
0880 0A33 0A66 0CC0 0D00 1000 1080 1800 1880 2800 2A80 4B00
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
2035 2458 2509 3021 3098 3942 4083 5606 5888 9267 9907 16922
Hex, 16 bit:
07F3 099A 09CD 0BCD 0C1A 0F66 0FF3 15E6 1700 2433 26B3 421A
If you have the same values in your B and MJ read flash files all should be good! I have identified this using various flash files read for SW such as B (not ACC suppport), MJ (ACC support), JM (ACC support), and changing MJ vs B differences gradually.
c. 1F9054 to 1F9078 – Min, max and change of gear ratio between engine speed and vehicle speed:
If you investigate DAMOS files it seems to be second area which also represent gear ratio, however it is not required to get the gear indicator working in the instrument panel.
“Parameter für maximales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 1 (1x1)”
„Parameter für minimales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 1 (1x1)“
„Parameter für Übersetzungsverhältnis vom 1. in den 2. Gang (1x1) „
„Parameter für maximales Übersetzungsverhältnis Gang 2 (1x1) „
„…“
My old B SW (new values for your MJ file):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
1260 0 1260 2000 1260 2000 2800 2000 2800 3800 2800 3800 4700 3800 4700 32767 4700 1000 1000
Hex, 16 bit:
04EC 0000 04EC 07D0 04EC 07D0 0AF0 07D0 0AF0 0ED8 0AF0 0ED8 125C 0ED8 125C 7FFF 125C 03E8 03E8
My new MJ SW (values to be replaced with values above from B SW):
Decimal, 16 bit, unsigned:
1200 0 1200 2000 1200 2000 3000 2000 3000 3900 3000 3900 4900 3900 4900 30000 4900 1000 1000
Hex, 16 bit:
04B0 0000 04B0 07D0 04B0 07D0 0BB8 07D0 0BB8 0F3C 0BB8 0F3C 1324 0F3C 1324 7530 1324 03E8 03E8
d. Save/export the bin-file.
5. Flash the file to the ECU using e.g. Galletto FGtech v54 via OBD. NB! The new checksum needs to be correctly updated using your editor (e.g. WinOls” or flashing software (e.g. Galletto).
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Hast du jetzt AHK oder nicht?
Mit AHK ist es 0079B9, ohne 0079C0.
Zitat:
Original geschrieben von HannesB4
Hast du jetzt AHK oder nicht?
Mit AHK ist es 0079B9, ohne 0079C0.
Ich habe keine AHK aber die Codierung 0079C0 bringt trotzdem einen Fehler, aber das ACC geht trotzdem.
Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Andreas_1987
Ich habe keine AHK aber die Codierung 0079C0 bringt trotzdem einen Fehler, aber das ACC geht trotzdem.Zitat:
Original geschrieben von HannesB4
Hast du jetzt AHK oder nicht?
Mit AHK ist es 0079B9, ohne 0079C0.
welcher Fehler steht im ACC stg und welcher im MSG?
Im MSG hab ich gar keinen Fehler, sondern nur im ACC-Stg.
1 Fehler gefunden:
01517 - Steuergerät für Anhängererkennung (J345)
004 - kein Signal/Kommunikation
Freeze Frame:
Fehlerstatus: 01100100
Fehlerpriorität: 6
Fehlerhäufigkeit: 1
Verlernzähler: 179
Kilometerstand: 87892 km
Zeitangabe: 0
Datum: 2009.06.26
Zeit: 01:03:02
Freeze Frame:
Temperatur: 44.0°C
Spannung: 12.03 V
Binärwert: 01000
Hex Wert: 0x044B
Hex Wert: 0x0032
Geschwindigkeit: -3.6 km/h
Querbeschleunigung: 0.00 m/s^2
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hast du dein ABS oder sonst was auf AHK codiert?
wenn nein
dann passt was mit deiner ACC codierung nicht
Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Scotty18
hast du dein ABS oder sonst was auf AHK codiert?
wenn nein
dann passt was mit deiner ACC codierung nicht
Nee nichts codiert, habe auch gar keine AHK.
Komisch das es trotzdem funktioniert.
So habe heute das Thema nochmal in Angriff genommen, da ich diese Woche einen Ausfall des ACC's hatte und bis heute nicht mehr funktionert hat. 😠
Fehlercode auch ausgelesen und siehe da der Fehler:
01517 - Steuergerät für Anhängererkennung (J345)
004 - kein Signal/Kommunikation
ist weg. Danke an "HannesB4" für seine Hilfe.
Das das ACC noch nicht funktioniert liegt jetzt noch an meinem bestehenden Komponentenschutz, den ich nächste Woche noch raus machen lassen werde.
Hello,
I already asked the same question at Q5 forum but no answer.
Sorry I must write in English. I don't speak German... yet..
I need advice from the members of this exelent forum.
I'm following this forum with the help of Google Translate.
Hope someone who has good knowledge and experience about ACC retrofiting can help.
I would like to retrofit ACC in a Q5 2.0 TFSI (CDNC), MY 2011 Automatic.
original parts are:
- 8K0 953 502 BK
- 8K0 953 568 G
and I replaced this with:
- 4G8 953 502 AE
- 8K0 953 568 M
I have original CAN Gateway: 8T0 907 468 AE (coding 00CB03) (CAN Extended 5CAN-M)
with Side Assist factory fitted/connected.
Due to excessive oil consumption, few months ago, my Audi dealer changed engine control module software from:
SW: 8R0 907 115 A / HW: 8K2 907 115 D
to
SW: 8R0 907 115 R / HW: 8K2 907 115 D
and finnaly I found on eBay:
Auto Dist. Reg (J428)
Part No SW: 8R0 907 561 A HW: 8R0 907 561 A
Component: ACC3 H09 X090
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 00815E
(there is no X on the back side of the radar sensor, only 009 Radarsensor H09 !!!
With CP! (Component Protection Activated) and this 10 Faults Found:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
01314 - Engine Control Module
008 - Implausible Signal
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication
01316 - ABS Control Module
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
02095 - Component Protection Active
000 - -
02095 - Component Protection Active
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
After calibraing G85 and Active Steering Wheel I selected ACC in Address 01: Engine and got "Coding rejected Error: 22 Conditions not correct or request sequence error"
I found information, somewhere on the internet, that engine have to be OFF/key ON to accept coding but when I turned engine OFF/key ON, VCDS (12.12.0) can't find Addres 01 at all.
When I select ACC and deselect CC in Address 16, Steering wheel module accept new setup but throw yellow EPC warning light in Instrument panel!!
Audi Breaking Guard and Automatic Cruise Control are activated in hidden (green) meny.
So anyone have any advice how to change setup in Address 01:Engine?
I found here this
Zitat:
Unfortunately, very sobering result from NEM Audi center-installing would be no problems -Vermessen/Einstellen the ACC's about 350 €. After several phone calls and questions, there was the statement that they tion "new" with the tester would you add anything new / retrofit could. Adding to the assembly list would not go for it and NEN code would not exist, or could get it.
Is this statement correct, or can someone help me with this problem, possibly somewhere in the postal code area 60/64/65/55 ....??
and answer
Zitat:
yes true
about ODIS NOTHING can encode without SVM more. Therefore, MSG and Stg 13 can no longer be performed without online connection-encode because your car has no ACC from factory-he gets any more coding.
with VAS can encode the rudimentary. But since there is not "out"
Coding and activation can I offer in NRW, calibration, however, not
The price for the calibration is "normal"
greeting Andy
So does it mean I can't change coding in Address 01, 13 ???
Thanks & greetings!!!
I made it !!! Problem solved !!!
Now If someone know coding for Stg 13
For Q5;2.0TFSI; RoW km/h; NO Trailer
Thank you !
Best regards!
Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Esoteric
Now If someone know coding for Stg 13For Q5;2.0TFSI; RoW km/h; NO Trailer
00C7E0
Hannes, GREAT !
So it's same as for A4 2.0 TFSI CDNC AUTOMATIC, NO TRAILER 🙂
Thank you for you help!
All done!
Now I have to remove CP and calibrate.
I will be in Vienna from now on. I have VCDS (registered one). If someone need help just PM!
Best regards!
I did not know that you are in Vienna. If you want we can calibrate your ACC.
As soon as I remove CP I'll contact you.
At this moment the radar is connected to the CAN Gateway and has power supply from the cigarette lighter plug and it sits inside the trunk 😉. I have to relocate it to propper place.
I just finished soldering LEDs inside my instrument cluster so now I have ACC symbols in the middle of the cluster activated 🙂
I'm planning to install the rest of the components (LEDs, resistors etc..) soon.
Zitat:
Original geschrieben von Esoteric
I'm planning to install the rest of the components (LEDs, resistors etc..) soon.
Good luck! If it works you will be the first who managed it.
I have retrofitted the 6 LEDs with their resistors several times, but I did not dare to solder all the other electronic components.
not the first one 😉