[Englisch] Kühlwasserverlust, Ölkontrollleuchte
Hallo,
Sorry, my Deutsch is nicht gut, so i will type in English. Very new in Germany (Muenchen) 🙂
I have an opel corsa S-D, 2007, 1.2 benzin, 55kw.
I usually do very short journeys each day, less than 20 kilometers.
in the previous months, i noticed i am losing coolant, but no signs of leak. I topped the reservoir with only tap water. There was no signs of overheating and no problems. When the water was less, I noticed that the AC was giving cold air in winter, so I filled the reservoir with water and the hot air came again.
last week i made a 200 kilometer trip. during the trip the oil pressure light came and went many tipes, and i noticed some oil leak under the car. i tracked it to the oil pressure switch (öldruckgebern). I ordered a new one, and i changed it, and i also topped the car in oil. no problems that day.
the next day, the car does not start at all and the engine light came on. it never went. the car started only when i hit the gas. so without giving the gas pedal, the car did not start. i also noticed the oil level is above the maximum.
another thing that i have noticed, is yellow sludge under the oil cap.
can you tell me what is the problem and if i can do it myself?
The summary.
New oil pressure switch
Engine light is on
yellow sludge under oil cap
oil level seems high
minimal colant in the tank because i always topped with water and not coolant.
water level is down every 2 weeks
no overheating of engine
thanks alot friends!
Berj
10 Antworten
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Original geschrieben von berj
Hallo,Sorry, my Deutsch is nicht gut, so i will type in English. Very new in Germany (Muenchen) 🙂
Welcome to Germany (even i am living far away from Munich).
The weak point is that not that much of the knowledge carriers here have the possibility to answer in english as well. So, please be Patient with us - inkluding me 🙄
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in the previous months, i noticed i am losing coolant, but no signs of leak. I topped the reservoir with only tap water. There was no signs of overheating and no problems. When the water was less, I noticed that the AC was giving cold air in winter, so I filled the reservoir with water and the hot air came again.
It sounds like you lost a bit more than just a quarter litre over a few month - i am right? How much have you added?
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i tracked it to the oil pressure switch (öldruckgebern). I ordered a new one, and i changed it, and i also topped the car in oil. no problems that day.
?
Have you drained all the oil before? How much oil was added?
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i also noticed the oil level is above the maximum.
How much? (Sorry, my crystal ball is out of order)
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another thing that i have noticed, is yellow sludge under the oil cap.
... indicating an Emulsion of Oil/Water ....
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can you tell me what is the problem and if i can do it myself?
No clue whether you can fix it by your self but it sounds like the cooling circuit leaks into the oil circuit.
Be Aware. Density of water is much higher than that of engine oil. If water leaks into the oil circuit it mainly remains at the bottom of the oil sump. If you check the oil Level you will mainly see oil - or maybe a kind of Emulsion. I recommend to drain all the oil and check whether water is the first you'll see.
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The summary.
New oil pressure switch
Engine light is on
yellow sludge under oil cap
oil level seems high
minimal colant in the tank because i always topped with water and not coolant.
water level is down every 2 weeks
no overheating of engine
Kurzzusammenfassung in Deutsch:
- neuer Öldruckgeber eingebaut
- Motorkontrolleuchte an
- "Gelbschlamm" (Emulsion) unter dem Öldeckel
- Ölstand über max.
- wenig Kühlmittel im System da mehrfach nur Wasser nachgefüllt.
- Wasser wird alle 2 Wochen nachgefüllt
- Motor scheint nicht zu überhitzen.
(Wasserpumpe scheint zu laufen, da es als es kalt war und nicht heizte, Wasser nachgefüllt wurde und Heizung wieder ging)
Sieht irgendwie danach aus das der Kühlkreislauf in den Ölkreislauf/Ölwanne hinein drückt. Dies könnte zum einen den Wasserverbrauch und den erhöhten Ölstand erklären.
Eure Ideen?
(Wer mit dem Englisch auf dem Kriegsfuß steht sollte ruhig in deutsch antworten - meine Meinung)
Thanks for your swift reply Astradruide and your welcoming words!
to answer your questions:
Yes when I add water, its around 2 liters even every 2 weeks.
When the oil pressure light came on and I checke the oil level, it was around the middle. So I topped it with around 0.75 liters, to reach the maximum. Now it shows more than the max even.
No I did not drain all the oil before.
Why do you think the engine light came on after changing the oil pressure switch, and the car started not starting without pushing the gas pedal? (does not work only with the key)?
Thanks alot.
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Original geschrieben von berj
to answer your questions:
Yes when I add water, its around 2 liters even every 2 weeks.
Uhh, that's quit a lot. Your engine is running with water ...
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When the oil pressure light came on and I checke the oil level, it was around the middle. So I topped it with around 0.75 liters, to reach the maximum. Now it shows more than the max even.
No I did not drain all the oil before.
Seems to be evident that water spill into oil circuit.
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Why do you think the engine light came on after changing the oil pressure switch,
It wasn't my Statement. Wasn't it?
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and the car started not starting without pushing the gas pedal? (does not work only with the key)?
Hmm, maybe more water as usuall remains inside the cylinder ....
I am not a car mechanics but from my point of view it Looks like the gasket from the cylinder-head is broken or not tight.
@all: Gibt es weitere Möglichkeiten als die Zylinderkopfdichtung wo Kühlwasser in den Ölkreislauf drücken kann? Dichtung vom Steuergehäuse vielleicht (gasket for timing chain housing)?
Hello!
I hope "astradruide" will help to translate my part :-O
Hallo!
Hatte ein ähnliches Problem mit schleichenden Kühlwasserverlust!
Anfangs war es so wenig das ich immer etwas wasser nachgießen musste und das Wasser im Öl verdunstete.
Später wurde es immer mehr, die Heizung fiel aus und es wurde Emulsion im Motor und der Ölpegel stieg an :-(
Ja, ich habe vorher selbst am Motor rumgepfuscht, aber das Problem war eine minderwertige Steuergehäusedichtung aus einem Komplett-Reparatursatz für die Steuerkette.
Ok, da der Motor soweit zerlegt war habe ich die Zylinderkopfdichtung ebenfalls mit gewechselt, die sah an einigen Stellen auch nicht mehr sehr brauchbar aus!
Letztendlich wurde die Vermischung so extrem das ich ca. 5,0l Emulsion abgelassen habe
und der Öldruck ein Großteil des Kühlwassers herausdrückte und der Motor oft am Kochen war.
Hier das Problem: Klick
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Hello!
I hope "astradruide" will help to translate my part :-O
Für mein schlechtes Englisch zahlt man noch 10€/hr - irgendwie muß man ja das Geld für den FOH-Ölwechsel wieder reinbekommen 😛
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Hatte ein ähnliches Problem mit schleichenden Kühlwasserverlust!
Anfangs war es so wenig das ich immer etwas wasser nachgießen musste und das Wasser im Öl verdunstete.
Später wurde es immer mehr, die Heizung fiel aus und es wurde Emulsion im Motor und der Ölpegel stieg an :-(
@berj: franklin84 stated that hi had have similary problems like you. He wrote that it started slowly and over the time he had have to add more and more water. Finaly the heating was not working anymore and oil Level rised up and he found 5 litres of oil-water slurry in the oil sump. Before that he observed that the engine starts boiling in shorter Intervalls.
Finally franklin84 identified the gasket for the timing housing. As he allready had to dissasemble quite a lot franklin84 he decided replacing the head gasket at the same time. The old head gasket appeared to be worn out as well.
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Hier das Problem: Klick
frnaklin84 discussed this matter in another (German writen) forum as well.
BTW: I forgott the link but yesterday i read a verry similar discussion in a british forum.
Seems that you're not alone ... whyever 🙁
HTH
P.S. berj, where are you from?
Berj ist typisch deutschsprachig. Erkennt man an der Satzstellung nebst Ausdruckfehlern im Vokalbular. Was soll dieser inszenierte Unfug?
Schon schlimm genug das auch die meisten deutschen Themem inszeniert sind, noch schlimmer die Antworten der Pseudoexperten. Schmeißt doch gleich euer Leben weg.
Wie wäre es mit Motortalk Comedy Show?
Thanks alot astradruide and franklin84 for your help. Thanks again astradruide for translating and being a helpfull person. Now I have a clearer idea what might the problem be. But what puzzles me is the fact that the engine light only came after I changed the oil pressure switch. Before that the car was just running fine even thought i do not drive more than a 600 kilometers per month. So what is your advice now? go to the mechanic and let them check it without telling them what we think and letting them diagnose the problem? do you have any idea how much this can cost? I have 3 more cars (I am a fan of alfa romeo) in my country, but never had an opel before. I bought this car just to manage in Munich, and as I said, I do not drive it much since I have 5 vintage Vespa Scooters from the 60s, 70s,and 80s.
Astradruide, I am from Armenia. (If you do not know where Armenia is, then maybe you will know after the football match between the German and the Armenian national football teams in Mainz on June 6) 😉. I live in Munich but I am always travelling away with my work (consulting), so not even the slightest time to learn German.
@AFG: Unfortunately, you are wrong. I am not German, trying to hide myself. This is a platform for helping each other, and not writing comments like yours. You made a fool of yourself. Learn how to be helpful like the rest of the guys who replied and tried to help me.
AFG, das er kein Brite ist nehme ich auch an.
Zum Punkt Pseudoexperten: Wo ist Dein fachlicher Beitrag?
Zum Thema Forum-fakes&Leben: Bei Deinen Problemen frage ich mich auch warum Du überhaupt an einem Forum teil nimmst. Fake hin fake her, der Fall ist zumindest plausibel.
Solltest Du ein Problem mit der englischen "Gramma" haben, steht es Dir frei die Postings zu korrigieren - "no Problem at all".
Solltest Du mal irgendwo im Ausland sein und Dich in ein Fremdsprache versuchen möge man Dich auch als "fake" abweisen. Das ist typisch deutsch-pedantisch!
Schnelle Antwort ohne Übersetzungshilfe?
In München gibts in der Brucker Str. 91, die Kfz.-Werkstatt Auto Scheidt,
das ist ein ehemaliger Entwicklungshelferkollege von mir, wir waren zusammen in Afrika
tätig. Im Rahmen seiner interkulturellen Komunikation wird er die bestimmt mit einem konstruktiven Ratschlag weiterhelfen. Der spricht neben Englisch auch Deutsch.
... mit anderen Worten Deine Passion ist nur das trollen.